Why Have Self-Driving Cars Stalled?


Fully fledged self-driving technology appears to be perpetually just around the corner. It is a promise that the Tesla chief executive, Elon Musk, has made almost every year since 2013. But in the real world, it is still an open question whether level five self-driving automation is actually possible. We will find out how close industry frontrunners have come to full automation and assess the scale of the problems standing in their way as the technology behind autonomous vehicles has proved devilishly hard to perfect. What are your thoughts LiveTribers? Why have self-driving cars stalled?

Posted by on 06 Oct 2022

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    Carol

    because the co- driver keeps getting drunk

    Posted by Carol on 14 Oct 2022

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    BRUCE

    we have yet to work out who will be responsible for any accidents. Is it the driver or the car manufacturer.

    Posted by BRUCE on 10 Oct 2022

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    ayuicyi

    when there's different types of cars, self driving car becomes more volunerable - human are evil, bully will come to take over / intentionaly crash the self driving cars. unless we get rid of all the non self driving cars or have a single lane just for self driving car

    Posted by ayuicyi on 08 Oct 2022

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    Rachel

    I’ll stick to driving my vehicle myself! People are being replaced by robots in a lot of ways these days. I don’t think I will take my chances on the road…

    Posted by Rachel on 08 Oct 2022

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    fion

    unless we are use self driving, otherwise it will have drivers that are bullying the self driving car - it's going to cost safety issues, more crime that the incapable police can handle

    Posted by fion on 08 Oct 2022

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    Turbotom

    I like the feel of driving I don't want to lose that experience

    Posted by Turbotom on 08 Oct 2022

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    yelsha42

    Still a lot of risk involved

    Posted by yelsha42 on 08 Oct 2022

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    vlee

    I feel that way too. I think a lot of people are concerned about risks and as far as owning a driverless vehicle goes, it would be a very expensive outlay.

    Posted by vlee on 19 Feb 2023

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    June

    It is a complex transition. These vehicles are controlled by AI-driven technologies which are programmed to handle a certain range of predicted streets and roads scenarios. Unfortunately, anything involving real time interactions between one vehicle and another as well as with pedestrians (all sorts of people walking, rushing, dashing out or wandering out) are not programmable. Then interactions between vehicles and animals, wildlives....too many unpredictable sudden situations beyond AI can predict. It is not safe. It is not safe when some vehicles are AI driven while others are human driven. Self-driving technologies suit and they are safe when the vehicles are running within a 'closed' areas or on a fixed rail. No sudden external unpredictable factors disturb the AI programs. In reality, only Microsoft or Google's own HQs have these. In Sydney, only Metro line has driver-less trains but there are many issues involving the Metro. Sydney's metro rail environment fits a typical AI driven self-less public transport because the trains are running on enclosed environment with one way direction. The station platforms are all glass-gates locked when there is no train arriving. All human caused sudden unpredictable scenarios (such as somebody tries to jump off the platforms or falls off the platforms) that requires instant human reactions are ruled out. This is why so far the only real life driverless public transport mode is applied at the Metro.

    Posted by June on 08 Oct 2022

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    stropp

    Oh no the mean machine can be a stress machine for the pensioner who wants to get out and needs the assistance or a auto assistance car ... woo think of a seasoned driver of past wanting to drive

    Posted by stropp on 08 Oct 2022

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    June

    Sydney metro is a driverless public transport mode. Depending on which Metro station you are on, you may find human staff on the platform. So far I haven't seen any wheelchaired commuter ( I am not a daily Metro communter but I take it say 2-3 times a month during non-peak hours) using them. But I think just like using trains and buses, if a person having special needs let the Metro staff know in advance when and where he/she will get on and get off, they will help. Metro trains have human staff patrolling the train cabins despite the trains are driverless.

    Posted by June on 08 Oct 2022

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    Brian

    I am still getting my head around electric cars…and the will I or won’t I….self driving cars …unfortunately not in my life time….i

    Posted by Brian on 08 Oct 2022

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    Tickles77

    I think it's many years away until the technology is perfected. Even when it is, there will still be issues of affordability, acceptance from the masses, and issues of infrastructure.

    Posted by Tickles77 on 08 Oct 2022

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    anniet

    I think it will take ages for people to trust the tech needed,( even for electric cars the uptake is minimal as they believe there’s not enough charging stations etc) let alone self driving ones. My sister has bought a 5month old Tesla and is always posting on Facebook about getting free charging. I do like the idea of never having to buy petrol ever again.

    Posted by anniet on 08 Oct 2022

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    ace bowler

    Self driving cars sound like 'nirvana' in the field of transportation, however, the complexities in writing code to make the system work is so difficult that policy makers seem to have decided to put it on the backburner for now. It will become reality at some point in the future.

    Posted by ace bowler on 08 Oct 2022

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    MARIO

    I would only like self-driving technology in city limits for a long distance drive i would like to be in control of the car.

    Posted by MARIO on 08 Oct 2022

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    Debra

    Self driving cars are a dream that is worth waiting for. Once the technology is fixed it will open up lots of possibilities and could make the roads safer.

    Posted by Debra on 08 Oct 2022

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    Chazza36

    Photos of paddocks full of battery dead electric cars in Europe do little to enhance sales in Australia. Add to that the much greater distances required and limited recharge stations and it is little wonder sales have stalled.

    Posted by Chazza36 on 08 Oct 2022

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    petron

    We have a long path to tread before the self driving technology will become available to use by the everyday members of society like myself. First the vehicles have to be manufactured at a reasonable price to enable motorist's to purchase. Good luck with that when there is such a concern or concentration with pushing the electric vehicle agenda. Secondly the roads need to be constructed to allow for self driving vehicles to safely operate. Thirdly, the Government of the day will need to address the issue of lost revenue from self driving vehicles never having accidents or breaking road rules. This is purely utopia in the minds of Elon Musk and his fellow disciples.

    Posted by petron on 08 Oct 2022

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    Natalie

    My internet drops out constantly, the power drops out constantly, the phone glitches now and again, I don't trust these things to always work so why would I trust a car to always get things right. I like to drive and pay a lot so that I can. I don't want to not drive so why would I pay to not do something I enjoy.

    Posted by Natalie on 08 Oct 2022

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    devilwoman666

    the only way self driving automobiles will work is if everyone has one so they can communicate with each other

    Posted by devilwoman666 on 08 Oct 2022

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    Matthew

    Trust in the market and the technology surrounding it. people need to feel safe, and companies aren't going to invest when consumer sentiment isn't headed in the right trajectory

    Posted by Matthew on 08 Oct 2022

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    LEIF

    Australian roads are too busy for self driving automobiles.

    Posted by LEIF on 08 Oct 2022

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    Maryam

    I don’t think this technology is still reliable to put on the road. I am not in favour of this technology.

    Posted by Maryam on 08 Oct 2022

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    Tara Rata

    These cars should be banned. They are dangerous and unreliable.

    Posted by Tara Rata on 08 Oct 2022

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    DevChap

    I think mainly because they have not yet really worked out legal liability for deaths and accidents. Obviously computers should reduce the amount of incidents on the roads but if your car kills someone would the car maker be liable?

    Posted by DevChap on 08 Oct 2022

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    Jidonskii

    Probably because many people still enjoy driving themselves and the automobile manufacturers know that and so aren't putting in much effort into this idea as they could have

    Posted by Jidonskii on 08 Oct 2022

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    tula

    I'm sure sometime in the future self-driven cars will be available, but at the moment people do not trust the technology.

    Posted by tula on 08 Oct 2022

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    merryl

    The technology will improve over time, but it is not advanced enough yet to deal with non-self-driving cars on the road.

    Posted by merryl on 08 Oct 2022

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    Seshachalapathi

    I am a bit nervous about the technology used, time will tell I guess.

    Posted by Seshachalapathi on 08 Oct 2022

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    Ally42

    I don't think people trust this type of technology. Too worried about accidents and also about it being controlled by hackers.

    Posted by Ally42 on 08 Oct 2022

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    CILLY0

    Think the cost of installing the road indications is too expensive for this country and too many accidents have happened with these cars. Also doubt that the legal ramifications have been fully determined at this stage.

    Posted by CILLY0 on 08 Oct 2022

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    Shannon

    Because their not safe and there’s no guarantee that they would be safe to be a passenger in

    Posted by Shannon on 07 Oct 2022

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    ere

    I can see no reason to purchase a self driving car. People are getting lazier and lazier. From what I've seen they are still unsafe to drive with several accidents and also at least 1 death caused by them. They've even been hacked - imagine being in a self driving car that a hacker has control over. Personally, I wouldn't get in one let alone purchase one.

    Posted by ere on 06 Oct 2022

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    Paula

    I know of at least 2 accidents involving self drive cars. I also know about the self drive Volvo that broke down on a highway. Someone on BBC World took a test ride last week and said he didn't enjoy the sensation at all. Knowing they are out on the road would make me feel very uncomfortable.

    Posted by Paula on 06 Oct 2022

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    Windog

    Yesterday I was driving through a construction site along a winding road full of potholes with a posted 15kph speed limit, and if my car was fully autonomous it would have accepted the speed sign recognition system's determination that the speed limit was 50 kph. Autonomous cars are going to require enormous expenditure on adequate road infrastructure, lane marking, signposting, etc., whichI cannot see ever happening.

    Posted by Windog on 06 Oct 2022

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    mact

    Like much AI based smart tech.... it's not safe enough or foolproof......yet. There's no doubt it will improve and change our transport and movement options in future.

    Posted by mact on 06 Oct 2022

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    Nuffie

    As anyone who's ever tried to design an idiot proof system is aware, it's nigh on impossible. Idiots are fiendishly clever. Not in an intelligent way, but more in a "For crying out loud, who in their right mind would ever think to do that" kind of way. It's practically impossible to double think an idiot, they always shoot off in a direction that only they can see. While ever logic controls the way we think, we will always be at a disadvantage. The world's brightest minds trying to design self driving technology that works, are bound to fail, because they are using logical cause and effect actions and responses. Peak hour traffic is the great leveller. All it needs is for some idiot to stall their car as the traffic lights turn green at a major intersection. Within a very short time idiots will start appearing. Whether it be a gentle nudge as they swerve into one of their ilk stopped to see what the fuss is all about, or driving into the back of the stalled vehicle, shocked at what has happened, especially as the lights had turned green which means everyone starts moving. Others will carefully wait until the mess sorts itself out and then roar across six lanes of traffic who just got their own green light. None of this is unusual, it's just what happens when cars and idiots get together. No wonder self driving cars give up and stop. The only way to resolve the problem is to segregate the two modes of transport. Let our current vehicles and all the careful drivers loose on the existing road network. Then send the self drive vehicles and all the idiots to Mars.

    Posted by Nuffie on 06 Oct 2022

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